Monday, June 14, 2010

Disappointed in Bill Nye

Bill Nye the Science Guy, as he's known, gave a speech to the American Humanist Association. He's a smart guy and had a really good show back in the day. Unfortunately though, he has bought into the false dichotomy between science and religion.

In his speech, he basically says that the humanists have an obligation to teach religious people who do not know about science about it. He wants to spread humanism which is a philosophy that says that the buck stops at humanity, that there is no afterlife, and that ultimately the meaning of life is fulfilling our own desires.

But to propose that science and religion are opposed is complete absurdity, but a good fairy tale to tell people. It's very convenient for groups like this to pit science and religion against each other. But it's really just setting up a straw man, in order to make a point. In other words, they attribute false things to religious people and then argue against these false assumptions.

Religious people do believe in science. Many of the world's greatest scientists believe in God, and I wrote a blog posting about many of these individuals. Bill Nye attacks the book of Genesis, basically asserting that it is not a scientific book. Then he goes on to show how some of the things mentioned in the first book of the Bible do not fit with scientific data. Well, this is a very easy target which he has set up. But Christians do not believe the Bible is a scientific manual. They believe it contains truths which are much deeper than this.

Scientists, including Bill Nye must stop being so childish. It is childish to misrepresent a religion and then offer proofs against this false presentation. Not only that, but to then encourage everyone to fight against these belief systems.

He also mentions evolution. Scientists love the word "evolution", but they push it much farther than the theory allows. It does not explain the origin of life, or the universe. It simply gives a possible system for how certain species evolved the way they have. The Catholic Church at least has made statements that say a person can be Catholic and believe in evolution. Much of the reason is that the Church speaks on faith and morals, not on biology or any science.

I know many very religious people, but none of them are against science. They see the value of science. But they also recognize that science without morality can be very evil. I know many people with advanced degrees, doctors, and other professionals who believe in God. And they see no contradiction in their beliefs.

Another issue that Bill brought up was overpopulation. Of course, he decried it as a major problem in our world. This is the party line for atheism. But overpopulation is not the problem many people think it is. There are dozens of countries which have officially stated that their population growth is far too small and that they want people to have more children. I know of no country which says they have too many people. There is enough food on Earth to feed 14 billion people, currently, yet our population has not reached 7. In fact, many believe we will peak in population around 8 or 9 billion. Something that his not often mentioned is that there are not necessarily being more babies born, just more people are surviving due to good medicine and health. People are living longer with higher qualities of life than before. People generally group together in dense populations. Obviously this whole thing is a canard.

Bill ends his speech by saying that in the entire universe we are rather insignificant, that we amount to nothing. He turns this around at the end by saying we ARE something because of our brains and our ability to reason and so on. While this may sound affirming, I believe it is a very dangerous philosophy. Using this philosophy, we accept people with strong intellects as being valuable, but people with mental disabilities would be less highly regarded. They would simply be weighing down the system. They would then become insignificant like Bill Nye originally said because they would not have the redeeming quality of a good brain. People are then judged and valued based on their utility and not their inherent worth.

Many religions believe people are valuable because of their inherent value given to them by God, not because they are able to think at a certain level or are of value to the world. Using Bill's philosophy, unborn and young children are worthless, as are elderly people with mental issues or mentally disabled individuals at any age. It is a very dangerous philosophy.

I just want to end by saying the Humanist vision of the world offers nothing. It does not seek to give anything, but rather to remove something. It wants to remove God, hope, love, mercy, etc. and replace it with science. Science has its place, but it must be guided.

I believe the following quote sums it up perfectly:

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
- Albert Einstein

49 comments:

  1. Name one scientist who has ever claimed evolution "explains the origin of life, or the universe". It's only creationists who claim that and it's always the scientists who have to correct them.

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    1. Sorry, atheism is an ideology, not science.

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  2. I have to wonder about this speech. He claims we need children now, but in the late 1990s, he starred in a video for Disney promoting the idea that we don't need children because the Earth is too overpopulated already. A clear contradiction, which is it?

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    1. In "Populations" Bill Nye certainly doesn't say we don't need children. He discusses the very real and growing concern of human overpopulation of the earth. When you say there is no such problem, you are clearly drawing your information from conservative theist sources. Big mistake. These are biased and do not look at data in a reliable and truthful way. Of course Catholics want to bend the truth to justify having 9 kids. Try something new: Take a break from the conservative misinformation and read a book with verifiable statistics, like Michael Pollan's "The Omnivore's Dilemma", then let's see what you think of human overpopulation on the earth. As far as Bill Nye goes… he's brilliant!

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    2. To Anonymous March 15, 2013:

      Please read this with an open heart:

      I am sorry that you feel the way you do about Catholics, but I take offense to you saying, "Of course Catholics want to bend the truth to justify having 9 kids."

      God blesses us with children. When we become married, and if its God's will, we have children. When we have children, we are sharing in a miracle with God. We bring life into this world through our love for God.

      God wants us to trust in Him and have faith.

      Our lives are not about us. They are about God.

      God Bless.

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    3. Your statement about God blessing us with children, etc., may be true, but it also might not be true. It is not okay to assume that everyone believes what you believe about the nature of life and what is beyond us and our world. We need to respect every person's right to have his or her own beliefs, and therefore need to look to verifiable scientific data as our baseline for understanding how the world works. Science is a great equalizer. For example, we can say, "Science shows that evolution of species is a real phenomenon (yes, it is and if you think it hasn't been proven stop reading only catholic and conservative sources), so we know all life on this earth has evolved over a period of millions of years." From this point, we can say, "If you want to believe that there was a God involved in making this happen, that's fine. If you believe there is a God that decides how many children you have, that's also fine". But you can't impose this belief on the rest of us.
      Please look at this website. It has actual data, not just opinions that come from a catholic blog: http://www.talkorigins.org/

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    4. Atheists: "We don't need children because the earth is over-populated. We should just commit infanticide on children before they reach the age of three."

      Also atheists: "Children are the future; therefore, we must indoctrinate them and force them to become atheists so they'll either brainwash or kill all the theists in the world and bring about a godless world where we atheists are the lords of all."

      If I were an atheist, I would turn myself into the authorities. Atheism is the religion of sociopaths.

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    5. Atheism contradicts itself all the time. It's nothing but a man-made religion of self worship and pseudoscience.

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    6. "As far as Bill Nye goes… he's brilliant!"

      Found the retarded atheist fundie. You probably also think that Jesus never existed and that there are more than two genders. Wouldn't surprise me, considering how retarded and wrong atheists are about everything.

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  3. Einstein also said: ""The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.""

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    1. Einstein was a deist, meaning he acknowledged the fact that there is a God. All of the greatest and most intelligent scientists throughout history have been theists/deists because people who acknowledge God's existence actually understand how the world works. Atheists make terrible scientists because atheism is an ideology, not science. Sorry, but it's true.

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  4. Atheism is the opiate of the masses. It is a religion of narcissism, denial of reality, hatred of true science, and lies for deluded people who are too stupid to know how the world really works.

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  5. Atheism is like a penis. It's fine for you to have one, just don't wave it in everyone's face. Keep it to yourself. No one cares about it.

    Atheism is a dumb religion for dumb people. I used to like Bill Nye when I was a kid, but now I realize he's just another typical dumb atheist who knows nothing about science, history, or morality.

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    1. Atheism is like a chode: ugly, unnatural, useless, abnormal, undesirable, annoying, unsatisfactory, unnatural, and unintentionally hilarious. We'd all be better off if we'd just cut it off.

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  6. Shill Lie... ehem, I mean, Bill Nye... is a clown. He talks a lot about things he knows nothing about and ends up proving what a moron he truly is. "Gender is a spectrum." Really? Dancing to terrible rap songs about sex? Are you serious? He's unprofessional in every possible way! He should've just stuck to his show in the 90s (which was actually a great show) and kept his stupid, atheistic beliefs to himself. Atheism is an insult to human intelligence, morality, and science. The sooner people realize this fact, the better.

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    1. Atheism is an infantile, fantasy-based religion. I'm not surprised to see Bill Nye dancing (badly) to the worst song ever written ("Sex Junk") and lying about the gender "spectrum". Atheists don't believe in science or facts, they believe in their own feelings. If they feel like their gender is "picklejar", then that IS their gender! And anyone who disagrees is a sexist bigot! G.K. Chesterton was right: when people stop believing in God, they don't believe nothing, they believe anything.

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    2. As Christians, we have Sir Isaac Newton, Francis Bacon, Georges Lemaitre, Thomas Aquinas, and many, many more Christian scientists and philosophers on our side.

      Atheists only have actors and "comedians" pretending to be scientists and philosophers like Bill Nye, Neil Degrasse Tyson, and Richard Dawkins.

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  7. Atheism is the dumbest, least scientific, most dishonest, and all-around worst religion ever. C'mon atheists! Get with the times! Atheism is so 1690! We have science now, and we don't need to bleed people with leeches or send people to the guillotine for not being atheistic enough!

    Thank a Christian in your life for sharing the same beliefs with our ancestors who gave us science, education, medicine, and mathematics. Sarcastically thank an atheist in your life for killing and trying to silence scientific Christians hundreds of years ago for daring to go against common pseudoscientific atheistic beliefs.

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  8. Got atheism? Please keep it to yourself.

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  9. Atheists stole science from Christians and Jews and turned it into pseudoscientific, wish-fulfillment nonsense. While Christians and Jews discovered electricity, disease prevention, gravity, bacteria, and other things that have actually been USEFUL to society, atheists just made up nonexistent genders, lied about what Christians and Jews actually believe in regards to science, and started the lie that we're all worthless meatsacks full of stardust and sea slime. I believe that's what the SJWs would call "cultural appropriation"!

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  10. The History of Science: TL;DR Version

    In the early 1600s,
    Christians: *invent science*
    People are highly educated and the world is a (mostly) peaceful place.

    In the late 1600s,
    Atheists: *bastardize science and kill the Christians who gave them science*
    Wars start, people start leeching and performing other harmful medical practices, weird pseudoscientific beliefs in things like healing crystals become normalized, and theories about women and racial minorities being inferior and "devolved" arise*

    From the late 1600s to today,
    Atheists: *silence Christians and do whatever they can to ruin their academic reputations (usually by frivolous and dishonest failing grades based solely on the Christians' refusal to blaspheme per the atheist "professor's" demands), lie to the world about the history and anatomy of science, lie about what Christians actually think and silence any Christian who dares to stand up for themselves, round up and shoot Christians in public schools, lie about what science really is, and use their celebrity status to lie to the world about gender and the climate*

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  11. The History of Atheism: TL;DR Version

    The beginning of time,
    Atheists: "We don't need God! We can decide for ourselves what is objectively right and wrong!" *slaughter innocent people, engage in sexual acts with children and animals, eat human flesh, and start wars over petty disagreements*

    In the late 1600s,
    Christians: *make important scientific discoveries that helped us understand how the universe works and that improved daily life for everyone*
    Atheists: "YOU SUPERSTITIOUS MORONS ARE RUINING EVERYTHING!" *go on a Christian-killing spree and take all of the credit for science, becoming the most arrogant, obnoxious, pretentious, and unlikable religious group ever*

    From the late 1600s to today,
    Atheists: "Healing crystals are legit, there are more than two genders, infanticide is okay because babies aren't human until they reach the age of two, there was no 'common ancestor' and we are all fish-monkeys made of sea slime and stardust, cow farts will destroy the world, and anyone who disagrees with any of these statements that I TOTALLY did NOT pull out of my butt is an idiot!"
    The level of education: *drops more and more every year*
    Violent crimes: *increase*
    The number of wars: *increases*
    School shootings and bombings: *increase*

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  12. Atheists hate REAL science for the same reason they hate Christians; they fear and dislike what they don't understand.

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  13. Christians believe in evidence and science. Atheists believe in totalitarian, sectarian beliefs. That is the main difference between us.

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    1. Christianity: The acceptance of evidence, scientific and historical data, and reality.

      atheism: The most anti-science religion of all time.

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    2. Atheists look up to illogical "entertainers" like Stephen Fry, Marilyn Manson, Seth McFarlane, and Ricky Gervais.

      Theists look up to logical philosophers and scientists like William Lane Craig, Sir Isaac Newton, C.S. Lewis, and Nikola Tesla.

      That's the biggest different between us.

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  14. Atheists are so irrational it's hilarious!

    Christians invented science and actually believe in science.

    Christianity supports rational thought and science, whereas atheism is based on personal feelings, not facts.

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    1. What do you MEAN?! You DARE to criticize my atheism?! Are you insinuating that facts are more important than MY feelings?! Are you trying to tell me that my gender ISN'T desk lamp?! I say it is, therefore it is, you evil Christian bigot! My pronouns are lit/light and I will call the cops if you refuse to call me by those pronouns! REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! I'M A SCIENTIST, BITCH! I dropped out in 6th grade BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER! I BECAME AN ATHEIST AFTER I SAW A MEME ON THE ATHEIST REPUBLIC FACEBOOK PAGE, SO THAT MAKES ME SMARTER THAN 99% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION BECAUSE I SAY SO! REEEE! REEE! RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  15. Atheism is just a manufactured story invented to control people. It's forbidden to mention this in history books, but atheism has always been a totalitarian, aggressive religion that seeks to lie to the world to promote its own agenda and to indoctrinate the masses and lead people away from the truth.

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  16. Atheists expect everyone to just believe in atheism wholeheartedly just like they do, even though they never give any rational, logical, scientifically researched, or historical evidence to back up the claims they make. It's nothing new; atheists have been doing that for centuries. They indoctrinate kids and lie to young, naive, and dumb people who don't know any better. They create problems (like the fairytales of there being more than two genders, infanticide being perfectly moral, and cow farts causing the end of the world) and they fearmonger and cause panic amongst those dumb enough to be atheists, and then "conveniently" "discover" that the "solution" to these "problems" that THEY THEMSELVES CREATED OUT OF THIN AIR is to eradicate Christians. With Christians out of the way, they then intend to get rid of Jews, then Muslims, and then everyone else who's smart enough to be a Theist. Creepy stuff!

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  17. If you're an atheist and you say you believe in science, you acknowledge the fact that the universe had a First Cause, which means you acknowledge the fact that we are not the product of a random, chaotic, cosmic accident. So... Why are you still an atheist?

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  18. Atheism ranks so high on the bullshit meter that it makes scientology look sane!

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  19. Brace yourselves ladies and gentlemen! This comment is going to present to you atheist evidence! Starting now:


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    Are you still reading this?



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    The evidence for atheism is so overwhelming, isn't it?



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    Wow! Look at all that blankness!

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    Aaaaaaand we're done! :D

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  20. How to Talk Like an Atheist:

    1. Scrunch up your face in pure hatred and rage.

    2. Shout at the top of your lungs that you're the smartest creature who has ever lived.

    3. Call everyone who disagrees with you a "science-denying religitard" who believes in "flying spaghetti monsters" and deliberately take their Scriptures out of context to fit your own narrative.

    4. Throw a massive tantrum in public over a cross on the side of the road and sue the entire town for "trauma" and "irreparable damage". How DARE they disagree with you?!

    5. Make extraordinary claims about your beliefs, then lie and say you have no beliefs and make no claims.

    6. Claim to believe in evolution... even though you deny a common ancestor and believe that sea slime turned into fish that turned into frogs that turned into monkeys that turned into cavemen that turned into sophisticated humans.

    7. Bully and belittle everyone who disagrees with you... then turn around and cry like an infant when they make fun of you in return.

    8. Tell Theists that they're only allowed to keep their beliefs to themselves... then have an emotional meltdown if they tell you to keep your beliefs to yourself.

    9. Make every single conversation all about yourself and your atheism. It doesn't matter if the conversation was originally about dog food, gardening, or hemorrhoids! Change the subject! If it isn't all about you, you simply can't communicate with others!

    10. Demand to be treated with the utmost respect while treating Theists like they're subhuman.

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  21. Atheism is just a euphemism for delusional thinking.

    I can coexist with anyone, regardless of their beliefs... except for atheists. All atheists are bigoted, hateful, nasty, cruel, immoral, violent, dishonest, stupid, anti-science, fascist bullies who do nothing but attack anyone who is different from them. Why would I want to have anything to do with them? They deserve no respect. They deserve to be shunned, avoided, and treated as badly as they treat everyone else.

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  22. Atheism is a lie. A lie that only the most delusional idiots believe in.

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  23. How many genders are there?

    SCIENCE!: Only two, male and female.

    Atheism: There are three genders, four genders, even five! #76genders

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  24. Delusional, atheists are delusional!

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  25. Glad to see all the atheists out there preventing people from dying by demonizing Christians for praying for grieving families to find comfort in times of tragedy. Awwwwwh.

    Atheists are so stunning and brave and scientific. Insulting people who are only trying to help lift the burdens of others (and also insulting people who suffer tragedies) is a truly noble act and we should all praise them for being such good, loving stewards.

    Okay, I can't keep up the sarcasm. Fuck atheists. All of them. They all deserve nothing but hatred, scorn, pain, and misery... because those are the only things they bring to others. Maybe Hitler had the right idea... just the wrong group of people.

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    1. Not ALL atheists. Just the asshole ones (which make up 85% of all atheists).

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  26. It sounds like Shill Nye should put away The God Delusion and pick up a science book.

    Atheists are all fucking retarded, worthless, subhuman, pieces of idiotic cuntscabs. If they were all rounded up in concentration camps, I wouldn't bat a fucking eye! Good fucking riddance! Society would be so much better off without those brainless cunts who know nothing about science, mathematics, mechanics, engineering, technology, history, physics, medicine, morality, decency, honor... or anything. They're all useless deadbeats. Why should they be allowed to live among us? They're just using up all the oxygen that we HUMANS need. Fuck them!

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    1. Not ALL atheists. Just the asshole ones (which make up 85% of all atheists).

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  27. Christians and Jews: *invented science, made great strides in medical research, discover laws of physics, uncovered historical mysteries of the origin of the human race, started thousands of charities to help those in need, and created the educational system*

    atheists: "DUUUUUURRRR!!! Any 1 whoo beleeves in Gawd holds society bak and should be thrown in jail or killed! We afeeists are teh REEL scientifical wun's! 4 exampul, We no dat dare r 709 genderz and dat starz sprinkled magical dust on teh oceanz and made teh fish's tern into monkys dat terned into caveman's! We r teh smartiest evar and if u disagreee wit us on anyting than FUK U! AFEEISM 4EVAR! REEEEEEEEEEE!"

    #AtheistsAreLiterallyRetarded
    #DeathToAtheism
    #FuckAtheists

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  28. Stephen Hawking was the one and only atheist who ever did anything for science, but even his discoveries weren't all that important in the grand scheme of things. Hundreds of Christian and Jewish scientists in the past several hundred years have given us science, technology, mathematics, physics, medicine, hospitals, schools, and pregnancy centers. No atheist has ever been able to top the amazing scientific feats of Theists. Atheists are just deranged, delusional, egotistical narcissists who project their own insecurities, shortcomings, violence, immorality, and stupidity on people who are actually intelligent, peaceful, loving, good, and useful to society (aka Christians and Jews).

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  29. Proud escapee from the cult known as atheism here! :D I can tell you from experience that atheism makes you scientifically illiterate. But of course, we all knew that already, and Bill Nye the Sex Junk Guy proves that fact for us even more! XD

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  30. First of all, if you're an atheist... stop it!

    Secondly, if you get your "science" from a guy who pretended to be a scientist on a kids' show twenty years ago and is now lying about gender and advocating for throwing people in jail for not wetting themselves in fear over climate change, you're not a "science fan" like you claim to be. You're just a conformist who swallows every spoonful of bullcrap the media forces down your throat without hesitation.

    I loved "Bill Nye the Science Guy" back in the day, but I've lost all respect for him. All he does now is shove his pseudoscientific, bullshit religion (atheism) down everyone's throat, lie about the science of gender and sexuality in the name of political correctness, and demonize anyone who disagrees with him on anything.

    All in all, he's a typical atheist: arrogant, ignorant, dumb, dishonest, hateful, bigoted, pseudoscientific, hypocritical, fascist, stuck in the past, irrelevant, useless, and full of shit. Not worth listening to at all.

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  31. The contradictions of an atheist:

    They claim to believe in science, yet they believe that you can be a little wood sprite if you want to. (I'm not even kidding... that is an actual line in the shitty "Sex Junk" song on the shitty "Bill Nye Saves the World" show on the shitty streaming service Netflix.) It's one thing to believe in the anti-scientific lie that there are more than two genders, but saying you can be a little magical fairy just by believing you are one... WTF atheists?!

    They also claim to fight for equality, yet they treat Theists (especially Christians) like second-class citizens and subhuman pieces of trash for fun and profit.

    They want to indoctrinate children and force them to become atheists, yet they also want to kill unborn children. MAKE UP YOUR TINY LITTLE MINDS ATHEISTS!!! JEEZ!!!

    Atheists are everything wrong with the world.

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  32. Bill Nye and Richard Dawkins are both as "logical" as a dead goldfish. Can we just admit the fact that they're both useless idiots who have no idea what they're talking about and just flush them down the metaphorical toilet already?

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  33. He's an ATHEIST, what did you expect?! If you believe in atheism, you're fucking retarded and fucking sick in the head! Atheists are hateful self-worshippers who would gleefully murder Christians and Jews in the streets if they could get away with it... without a hint of remorse

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